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02 Apr 2010 21:02 #151
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03 Apr 2010 06:29 #152
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Aah. I found this video a very long time ago but couldn't get it to run. I then forgot about it!
Thanks Paul, I have now left it to 'load' for as long as it takes - which is a long time - and see what I can see.
EDIT: No luck in getting it to run smoothly just gives two second grunts then takes five seconds to show the next two seconds this after letting the whole thing download. Anyway, I get the picture so to speak. Interesting are the shots 'inside' the target shelter showing details of the models and the foot control. Presumably, the two dials in front of the operator shown the position of the target on the circuit. Despite the ET protection and the fact that the target shelter 'doors' are at 90 degrees to the line of shoot, they have had to put up a sandbag wall to shield the operator from ricochets!
Thanks Paul, I have now left it to 'load' for as long as it takes - which is a long time - and see what I can see.
EDIT: No luck in getting it to run smoothly just gives two second grunts then takes five seconds to show the next two seconds this after letting the whole thing download. Anyway, I get the picture so to speak. Interesting are the shots 'inside' the target shelter showing details of the models and the foot control. Presumably, the two dials in front of the operator shown the position of the target on the circuit. Despite the ET protection and the fact that the target shelter 'doors' are at 90 degrees to the line of shoot, they have had to put up a sandbag wall to shield the operator from ricochets!
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03 Apr 2010 10:04 #153
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Track Target for Air Gunners
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There seems no way to save this clip. Can't find it in any cache, and Orbit Grab downloader doesn't save it. Clicking on it a second time just sets it downloading again.
Pity, as I'd like to study bits over and over - but I guess that's copyright.
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There seems no way to save this clip. Can't find it in any cache, and Orbit Grab downloader doesn't save it. Clicking on it a second time just sets it downloading again.
Pity, as I'd like to study bits over and over - but I guess that's copyright.
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Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite
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13 Apr 2010 13:10 #154
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Just seen these posts, excellent!
Looking at the "Stills" on the BritishPathe website (set to one second) shows quite a lot of detail - the inside of the target shelter is different to what I imagined.
As to where - obviously near an airfield which cuts a few locations out, my suggestion is Hell's Mouth, but I'll need to check with my site plans. HM had 3 Bellman's in an "L" shape and the turret hardstanding/workshop (that can be seen in the stills) was near the hangers.
Has anyone contacted British Pathe about the clip ? If not, I may do so.
I visited the site at Skipsea last week. Not much remaining but I'll post some photos as soon as I can.
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Looking at the "Stills" on the BritishPathe website (set to one second) shows quite a lot of detail - the inside of the target shelter is different to what I imagined.
As to where - obviously near an airfield which cuts a few locations out, my suggestion is Hell's Mouth, but I'll need to check with my site plans. HM had 3 Bellman's in an "L" shape and the turret hardstanding/workshop (that can be seen in the stills) was near the hangers.
Has anyone contacted British Pathe about the clip ? If not, I may do so.
I visited the site at Skipsea last week. Not much remaining but I'll post some photos as soon as I can.
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13 Apr 2010 19:40 #155
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Hardstanding said
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My feeling is not - the technology required in those days would be a bit advanced to do this. Might be wrong though - the simulator designers were very innovative. In which case what do they show - speed?, volts / amps? don't know.Presumably, the two dials in front of the operator shown the position of the target on the circuit.
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That was my second choice - I suspect the additional wall here is possibly just in shot....my suggestion is Hell's Mouth, but I'll need to check with my site plans. HM had 3 Bellman's in an "L" shape and the turret hardstanding/workshop (that can be seen in the stills) was near the hangers
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13 Apr 2010 20:29 #156
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Viewing the stills set at 1-second intervals, the additional wall is clearly visible at 00:00:46.
The manual switching lever for the points is shown nicely at 00:00:21.
I've been trying to figure out the arrangement of the Repair Shed, here's a couple of SketchUp screenshots so far:
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To keep up my Anorak Quota, the telephone setup visible in the film is a Type 4 or 150 Candlestick phone, with a Type 25 or 26 Bellset mounted on the pillar.
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The manual switching lever for the points is shown nicely at 00:00:21.
I've been trying to figure out the arrangement of the Repair Shed, here's a couple of SketchUp screenshots so far:
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To keep up my Anorak Quota, the telephone setup visible in the film is a Type 4 or 150 Candlestick phone, with a Type 25 or 26 Bellset mounted on the pillar.
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14 Apr 2010 17:36 #157
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The CANMORE site report on the 200yd MTR at Tain has a nice air photo showing the bombing range target, arrow and quadrant towers beside the MTR.
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16 Apr 2010 13:16 #158
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Some photos of the remaining bits of the turret workshop at Skipsea compared with the extant building at Theddlethorpe...
First, a shot of the back of the Theddlethorpe building
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Skipsea - southern end of the building remains showing doors in the same place as Theddlethorpe and two blocked up toilet windows (hidden by large bush in the Theddlethorpe photo). The wall pillars are in the same places as Theddlethorpe though the wall height has obviously been reduced.
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Opposite end of building (taken through a fence !) shows original windows still there....
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Finally a shot of the inside of the building - non-original floor but I wonder if the paint on the walls is original ?
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The workshop at Skipsea looks the same size and layout as all the others I've seen. No other walls or buildings exist as it's in the middle of a holiday park.
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First, a shot of the back of the Theddlethorpe building
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Skipsea - southern end of the building remains showing doors in the same place as Theddlethorpe and two blocked up toilet windows (hidden by large bush in the Theddlethorpe photo). The wall pillars are in the same places as Theddlethorpe though the wall height has obviously been reduced.
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The workshop at Skipsea looks the same size and layout as all the others I've seen. No other walls or buildings exist as it's in the middle of a holiday park.
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16 Apr 2010 17:55 #159
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Work-in-progress of the Store Workshop building:
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Based on the Theddlethorpe photos, I wonder if the centre two bays of the turret store would originally have also been fitted with doors.
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Based on the Theddlethorpe photos, I wonder if the centre two bays of the turret store would originally have also been fitted with doors.
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