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Airshows 2016

06 Mar 2016 21:00 #11 by Chris Lowe
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Has everyone read this statement from the British Air Display Association?

JOINT STATEMENT BY THE ‘HONOURABLE COMPANY OF AIR PILOTS’ AND THE ‘BRITISH AIR DISPLAY ASSOCIATION

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07 Mar 2016 08:46 - 07 Mar 2016 08:53 #12 by stevie
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Has everyone read this statement from the British Air Display Association?

JOINT STATEMENT BY THE ‘HONOURABLE COMPANY OF AIR PILOTS’ AND THE ‘BRITISH AIR DISPLAY ASSOCIATION


Yes, already read this & lots & lots more elsewhere regarding this years up & coming airshow season & it's all sobering reading. The outlook's looking very bleak at present for UK airshows & display aircraft operators.


Plenty more info here -
www.keepairshowsairborne.site/

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07 Mar 2016 09:15 #13 by Chris Lowe
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I had already seen it, but Carol Vordermann was posting it all over twitter yesterday

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07 Mar 2016 10:24 #14 by stevie
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Has everyone read this statement from the British Air Display Association?

JOINT STATEMENT BY THE ‘HONOURABLE COMPANY OF AIR PILOTS’ AND THE ‘BRITISH AIR DISPLAY ASSOCIATION


The UK Airshow Review website have tried to question the CAA, This is a post by Boff180 from their forum -

"Forum members may be interested to know.

We asked the CAA for an interview during the Proposed Airshow Charges consultation.
Our request was declined.

The reason?

The CAA spokesman for the Proposed Airshow Charges consultation was on holiday for two weeks!

Whilst we would never accuse the CAA of anything without evidence, or would we want to deny an employee of their leave.

It must be pointed out that the Official CAA Spokesman for the Consultation was on holiday for 2 weeks during a 4 week Consultation."

& from airshow commentator & Aeroplane magazine editor Ben Dunnell's twitter -

"Something of an irony in the CAA CEO making misguided statements to the press when the CAA is ignoring legitimate journalistic enquiries.I requested the best part of a fortnight ago now that the CAA publish the research underpinning its comments about the effect of the ...proposed charges on airshow ticket prices. No reply whatsoever."



Oh well, on a brighter note....The USAF F-22 Raptor has been confirmed to appear at RIAT along with the public debut of the F-35....It & Farnborough may well be the ONLY airshows taking place at this rate!! :ohmy:

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07 Mar 2016 10:46 #15 by mbriscoe
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As an outsider, what do the CAA do at airshows at the moment (or more accurately previously). Do they have inspectors and observers present or is it effectively self-certification with the various people involved just signing that they comply with the regulations?

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10 Mar 2016 14:31 #16 by mbriscoe
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Perhaps this explains why the CAA are tightening up.

According to the report, investigations have shown that this was not an isolated incident. Similar breaches have taken place at Shoreham and at other venues, involving other aircraft and pilots.

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10 Mar 2016 15:20 #17 by Dietmar Morley
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Perhaps this explains why the CAA are tightening up.

According to the report, investigations have shown that this was not an isolated incident. Similar breaches have taken place at Shoreham and at other venues, involving other aircraft and pilots.


Sadly, when terrible things like this happen, the findings are, more often than not, that the incident wasn't isolated, it was just the one incident that finally went horribly wrong that then highlighted everything else that had gone on before.

This sort of thing goes all the way back to the Death of the Honourable C S Rolls at the July 1910 Bournemouth airshow that ultimately lead to the first tightening up of flying rules. This also had everyone up in arms over 100 years ago decrying the over regulation of flying!

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10 Mar 2016 16:23 #18 by JCB
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The latest AAIB Special report issued this afternoon seems to justify why the CAA is tightening up:

assets.digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk/med...b/S1-2016_G-BXFI.pdf

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10 Mar 2016 16:43 #19 by Peter Kirk
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Tightening the rules is often used with great success. Nobody speeds any more, nobody drink drives and nobody uses mobile phones whilst driving. I think I can see a flaw in my arguement :)

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10 Mar 2016 17:34 #20 by mbriscoe
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Tightening the rules is often used with great success. Nobody speeds any more, nobody drink drives and nobody uses mobile phones whilst driving. I think I can see a flaw in my arguement :)


As opposed to relaxing legislation with licensing laws and pub opening times. We were told that relaxation would result in everybody slowly sipping a glass wine at a table outside the bar, Continental style. And of course we no longer see anyone drunk, don't see town centres full of drunks and the police and ambulance service don't have to spend much of their time dealing with drunks.

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