Drawing numbers - what do they mean?

Can I chuck up even more confusion into the FTCW discussion, referring to my favourite topic of Halfpenny Green?

101-102 // Drying Rooms // Nissen // FTCW/201/42
116 // Airmens Games and Reading Room // Nissen // FTCW/201/42

Same drawing number, suggesting that, rather than a detailed drawing, it may be a "standard design" of Nissen hut, from an exterior perspective? Or maybe just no interior structure?

165 // Drying Room // T.B. // FTCW/201/42

Bother. Forget that idea then.

The Sergeant Pupils Mess - a straggling structure (No.178 on the ARP) is FTCW/119/42. The leftmost parts look highly probable to be Nissens (I'll post a composite image I made, as an attachment). The right part, however, I cannot see how that can be Nissen and it was probably flat roofed, of whatever primary construction, given that it is L shaped, with a bit sticking out the front that could be another smaller Nissen structure with connecting corridor? 116 is in that image as well, top left corner of the "ruler" window.

257 // Flight Control Office // Nissen // FTCW/59/42 was situated next to the extant control tower, just on the runway side of the modern toilet block, which appears to be almost exactly where a wartime toilet block was situated.

Halfpenny Green was Training Command - an Advanced Flying Unit (Observer) with some attachments and over 100 Avro Ansons on strength at its peak - so the FTC bit could stand, but according to Willis & Holliss, its parent was 25 Group (Market Drayton).

Ian wrote:

Halfpenny Green was Training Command - an Advanced Flying Unit (Observer) with some attachments and over 100 Avro Ansons on strength at its peak - so the FTC bit could stand, but according to Willis & Holliss, its parent was 25 Group (Market Drayton).

Flying Training Command in WWII had Nos.21, 23, 25, 50, 61 and 54 Groups at various times. Nos. 21 and 23 Groups were responsible for pilot training.

HQ 25 Group was at Buntingsdale Hall, Market Drayton, which in July 1944 controlled 14 stations plus 6 satellites. These included Air Gunners' Schools, (O)AFUs and the Central Navigation and Central Gunnery Schools. Its area was then stated as 'Midlands and Wales' but extended as far north as Barrow and Cark in Cumbria

Halfpenny Green is recorded as No.3 (O)AFU and No.1545 Beam Approach Training Flight.

Yup, that's exactly what I have, carnaby - Bothas and far too many Ansons from I through to X. From what I gather, most of the aerodromes around Shropshire were in the same group - I didn't know Barrow and Cark were, though. They are a bit... "remote"?

The only reason I mentioned the Group was to say "nothing to do with Worcester", for the FTCW heading, as previously discussed. Still no idea what it means (or what the drawings themselves look like... The Sergeants Mess in particular looks intriguing from a construction perspective).

Cheers,

Ian P.

Ian wrote:

From what I gather, most of the aerodromes around Shropshire were in the same group -

Actually the only other 25 Group airfields in Shropshire were Shawbury (Central Navigation School) and its satellite at Bratton.
Bridleway Gate, Condover Chetwynd Ternhill and Wheaton Aston were all 21 Group, HQ Cranwell. Montford Bridge and Rednal were 9 Group at Barton Hall. Peplow was 93 Group, Egginton. Sleap and Tilstock were 38 Group, Netheravon and Atcham was USAAF by then.

So I was right and wrong simultaneously... Most of them >were< in the same group... just not the same group as HG.

I shall sit corrected.

Ian P.

Can this link be updated please, it comes up with an error

Thanks

PETERTHEEATER wrote:

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Thanks Paul,

I shall, in due course, compare my list of explosive stores to your list and comment as required.




Can this link be updated please, it comes up with an error

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