Surviving wartime 'Earthquake' Bombs

27 Jan 2021 17:24 #61 by David Thompson
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Grand Slam or Tallboy ?



This photo appeared on a local history Facebook group and I have shared it with the ARG Facebook group too . The original photo caption is ; Grand Slam bombs ready for delivery at the Elswick Works, on Scotswood Road, Newcastle on 7th February 1945.

Looking closely at the photo the bomb second from the front , it is marked '6907LBS' which I presume is the empty weight of the shell before the fins are fitted and the explosives added so with this in mind is it a Grand Slam (22,000Lbs) or perhaps a Tallboy (12,000Lbs) ?

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27 Jan 2021 17:50 #62 by kebecker
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This is at Elvington and is labelled Tallboy, look similar to the picture?

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27 Jan 2021 17:56 #63 by airfields man
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Definitely a Tallboy !

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28 Jan 2021 11:29 #64 by PETERTHEEATER
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They are Tallboy casings

Tallboy case had a maximum diameter of 3 feet - 2 inches.
The filling was 5200 pounds.
The total weight of case with filling was 11,855 pounds making the empty case weight 6,655 pounds.

That's near enough the weight stencilled on the case in the photograph. The length of the casing was 10 feet - 4 inches.

Grand Slam case had a maximum diameter of 3 feet - 10 inches
The filling was 9135 pounds
The total weight of case with filling was 21,500 pounds making the empty case weight 12, 375 pounds

All weights are nominal calculated but varied from bomb to bomb in practice.

Both had 20 x studs/nuts securing the baseplate of the case.

Both had 3 x Exploder Containers in the baseplate for the Pistols.

There was a difference in weight of each casing due to the steel batching and methods of forming the cases. The fifth bomb in the photograph appears to have the weigh 6740 pounds compared to the second bomb 6907 and the first bomb 6991 pounds (?)

British made Tallboy was designated Mark 1. American made bombs (made for the RAF) were designated Mark 2. The differences were negligible apart from weigh variations.

Figures taken from Air Publication 1661 B (Bombs)
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28 Jan 2021 11:58 #65 by netcompsys
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For completeness, the length of a Grand Slam casing please ?

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28 Jan 2021 13:59 #66 by PETERTHEEATER
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Sorry, It dropped off when I reformatted.

GS casing length 12 feet 6 inches.

TALLBOY Length Overall (with tail unit) 21 feet - 0 inches

GRAND SLAM Length Overall (with tail unit) 25 feet - 5 inches
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28 Jan 2021 18:12 #67 by airfields man
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I did post this many years ago somewhere on here. Saw this in a Scrapyard in Lincolnshire 1986-8.

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28 Jan 2021 18:17 #68 by kebecker
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Hendon
Tallboy?

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28 Jan 2021 18:30 #69 by netcompsys
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I did post this many years ago somewhere on here. Saw this in a Scrapyard in Lincolnshire 1986-8.


Pretty much everything else in that yard has been cleared but the Tetney Tallboy remains
The owner tells me that the family regard it as a heirloom

kevin

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31 Jan 2021 12:19 - 31 Jan 2021 12:23 #70 by netcompsys
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There is a Grand Slam and a Tallboy @ Debden, currently home to the Royal Engineer's Bomb Disposal Unit.:D


Anyone have any (dated) pictures of these ?

Kevin


The original post was a while ago (2013) and no photos were forthcoming

I quick visit via streetmap identifed a display of bombs in front the gate, The centre one of which is very large bomb, but the profile of the tail assembly just looks completely wrong

A further check using Geograph shows a better photo, but it still doesnt look right

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www.geograph.org.uk/photo/6336145

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Debden is the home of 29 Explosive Ordnance Disposal & Search Group among others

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