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31 Oct 2008 13:01 #11 by Peter Kirk
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contentd - your point about digital media is very valid and the thought of having to copy to new media every 10 years or so is not encouraging. To my mind the old microfiche or positive film is nearly as future proof as paperwork. All you need is a light source and a magnifyer!
Duplicated hard disks are the best best for large digital archives as it is a relatively easy task to copy from old server to new server every 10 years or so. This of course assume that file types and operating systems are compatible. I would always keep paper originals in any event but as you say these need enviromental stability.
There is no simple answer to future proofing but anything done now is better than the skip!

Peter

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31 Oct 2008 13:36 #12 by Paul Francis
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Dave and PNK, great posts as this has always been a problem for me. I have a vast collection of negs and have over the last few weeks been digitising Lee on Solent, Bicester, Upper Heyford and Pucklechurch (about a 900 neg images). It is amazingly time consuming as it is not just a question of scanning, the negs are not in good nick, they have faded somewhat (edges mostly) (even the UH photos of 1996!) which surprised me, so there is a certain amount of tweeking to do to each one. I can only get through 100 or so per day so you can see at this rate I will be here scanning till I am pushing up daiseys! I like your idea of uploading them, but I would also want them on DVD, external hard drive and solid state (as soon as the price comes down). We need to talk more on this.

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31 Oct 2008 14:21 #13 by contentd
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and..... each image or file needs to have a meaningful file name and some reference narrative. In my experience this is equally as demanding as the digitising process.

However I think we're probably agreed on the notion of storing originals safely and creating a working digital archive? - Yes/No

If that's the case what say we set up a small trial with three or four participants and create a mini archive to trial formats, naming, archiving and presentation conventions...

I have server space available and can knock up some custom (Windows Platform) software to manage things...

Let me know if you think it's worth a go and I`ll set the ball rolling.

Cheers
Dave

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31 Oct 2008 15:29 #14 by Paul Francis
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Absolutely this is a must Dave and thank you for suggesting / organising etc. What do we do?

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31 Oct 2008 15:55 #15 by contentd
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What do we do?


Nothing for a couple of days... I`ll set something up to start the ball rolling then we can all pick holes in it and modify the system until it's right.....

The only thing you might want to have a gentle think about are some primary classifications/categories ... eg Plans, Buildings, Equipment etc ... and Names... eg Elmdon? Birmingham .... etc etc

Cheers
Dave

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31 Oct 2008 16:01 #16 by REF
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Could something be set up by county catergory? Then placename?

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31 Oct 2008 18:21 #17 by NJR
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Confused now, thought we had started one already, just waiting for the legal guy to get back. Let me know what's happening as I don't want to start working on something that's going to be replaced in a few days!

NJR

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31 Oct 2008 18:31 #18 by contentd
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Confused now, thought we had started one already, just waiting for the legal guy to get back. Let me know what's happening as I don't want to start working on something that's going to be replaced in a few days!

NJR


I`ll press on anyway and if it's not required it won`t be a problem ....

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31 Oct 2008 18:39 #19 by Paul Francis
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We have indeed, but it would also be a good idea to examine the technology to have an internet based photographic archive in addition to having a central archive of digital images. This is just an experiment with the idea. The reason being, that DVDs, CDs and hard drives only have a life span of five or so years. We ultimately want a future proof archive and one way of doing this is two store it in cyber space. For example, I have my negative collection, digital images stored on two external hard drives as well as two independent sets of DVDs, there is no harm in storing the images in cyber space too as well as the duplicate collection which you will have. That way, if my house is destroyed in a fire and I end up as toast, then you will have another set as well as control over over the cyber space collection.

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31 Oct 2008 19:12 #20 by NJR
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Yes, was thinking more into this after my post. Dave should go ahead with it and I'll store photos DVDs and the hard drives, the legal bit would still need to apply to the cyber collection as well, it's probably going to be worth Dave and myself working together on the protocols etc.

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