RAF 'Y' Stations etc. Discussion Thread

14 Jul 2014 10:01 #131 by Stan Ames
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Peter

Your absolutely right, I should have gone to Specsavers.

Stan

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16 Dec 2014 16:38 #132 by carnaby
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The Anstruther 'Y' Service establishment consisted of five separate D/F sites reporting to a sixth location, the control room. It was in Scottish Command and operated by the Royal Navy.
From TNA: HW41/101 (List of Y Stations):
Cassini______NGR
0059281 = 557 069
0063283 = 561 071
0082291 = 580 079
0088295 = 585 083
0099296 = 596 094
0074288 = 572 076

The Cassini grid references are incorrect in that the leading '0' should be a 'P' to conform to other references in the document.
(The sites are in Cassini square 'qP' = NGR 'NO')

The last reference was the Control Room where two Nissens are extant HERE

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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16 Dec 2014 16:57 #133 by mbriscoe
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The Anstruther 'Y' Service establishment consisted of five separate D/F sites reporting to a sixth location, the control room. It was in Scottish Command and operated by the Royal Navy.
From TNA: HW41/101 (List of Y Stations):
Cassini______NGR
0059281 = 557 069
0063283 = 561 071
0082291 = 580 079
0088295 = 585 083
0099296 = 596 094
0074288 = 572 076

The Cassini grid references are incorrect in that the leading '0' should be a 'P' to conform to other references in the document.
(The sites are in Cassini square 'qP' = NGR 'NO')

The last reference was the Control Room where two Nissens are extant HERE


You can see various ones around the area on the aerial photographs, there is also Magask not too far away

ANSTRUTHER

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26 Jun 2015 15:16 #134 by cliveh

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24 Oct 2015 18:18 #135 by Rebnik
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At the beginning of this thread there were questions about Tean. In my own research work I have now come across the following sources:

Source: www.rafmuseum.org.uk/documents/Research/...Air-Intelligence.pdf

In 1943 and 1944 many Americans received instruction at RAF schools and on-the-job training in conjunction with intelligence operations at Bletchley Park, RAF Kingsdown, RAF Cheadle, and Cheadle’s American sub-station at Tean in Staffordshire.

Source: larrytart.com/FTV/chapter1.html

The 951st Signal Radio Intelligence Company-designated an aviation company in November 1943-began training at Tidworth, Wiltshire, under American and RAF supervision. Lt. Col. Harry Raymond Turkel commanded the organisation during its tour of duty in the European Theater. The unit moved to Blythe Bridge, Cheshire, in early December 1943 for training at the nearby RAF Tean intercept site. (Tean was an outstation of the RAF's main intercept station at Cheadle.) The training of intelligence officers and intercept operators of the 951st SRIC, Aviation continued at Cheadle into 1944.

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26 Jan 2017 19:51 #136 by carnaby
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TNA Record HW41/101 lists three 'Y' stations at Wick. Two were Naval HF/DF stations, which had closed by Sept 1944

1) Wick (Lybster), Area: Hillhead, 58 18 10N, 03 16 15W qD784568 = NGR ND255351 Somewhere around HERE

2) Wick (Keiss), Area: Mount Pleasant, 58 31 12N, 03 08 34W qD889850 = NGR ND356634 HERE Street view of tower: goo.gl/maps/nw4PxrYBc1M2 (This site may have been covered elsewhere.)

3) There is also an RAF VHF Intercept Station qD909758 = NGR377543 HERE

www.caithness.org/wings/wingsadditions.htm reports:
Just some more information for your site "Wings Over Wick" My Uncle Mr Harry Varley now in his 90th year spent almost the entire duration of the war at Wick as a radio operator - he was not attached to the "flying boys" at the aerodrome, but in a little hut set away from the main RAF Depot - it was here he says he spent time eavesdropping on the enemy. The section was called "Y" section and I think I am right in saying this was a very secret affair that even today he feels that he should not be talking about it.
The radio shack was a wooden hut affair and there would be around 30 operators working on a three shift system. The whole setup was at FOSS HEAD FARM - he recalls several radio aerials there and has fond memories of the farmer that owned the land - he says he was a perfect gentleman

There doesn't appear to be a Foss Head Farm, but there is a Noss (Head) Farm and there is a very suspicious looking building here, with another structure in the field. Street View:goo.gl/maps/qUfFtxvK2rA2

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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26 Jan 2017 22:51 - 26 Jan 2017 22:58 #137 by mbriscoe
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TNA Record HW41/101 lists three 'Y' stations at Wick. Two were Naval HF/DF stations, which had closed by Sept 1944

1) Wick (Lybster), Area: Hillhead, 58 18 10N, 03 16 15W qD784568 = NGR ND255351 Somewhere around HERE

2) Wick (Keiss), Area: Mount Pleasant, 58 31 12N, 03 08 34W qD889850 = NGR ND356634 HERE Street view of tower: goo.gl/maps/nw4PxrYBc1M2 (This site may have been covered elsewhere.)

3) There is also an RAF VHF Intercept Station qD909758 = NGR377543 HERE

www.caithness.org/wings/wingsadditions.htm reports:
Just some more information for your site "Wings Over Wick" My Uncle Mr Harry Varley now in his 90th year spent almost the entire duration of the war at Wick as a radio operator - he was not attached to the "flying boys" at the aerodrome, but in a little hut set away from the main RAF Depot - it was here he says he spent time eavesdropping on the enemy. The section was called "Y" section and I think I am right in saying this was a very secret affair that even today he feels that he should not be talking about it.
The radio shack was a wooden hut affair and there would be around 30 operators working on a three shift system. The whole setup was at FOSS HEAD FARM - he recalls several radio aerials there and has fond memories of the farmer that owned the land - he says he was a perfect gentleman

There doesn't appear to be a Foss Head Farm, but there is a Noss (Head) Farm and there is a very suspicious looking building here, with another structure in the field. Street View:goo.gl/maps/qUfFtxvK2rA2


I searched the aerial photographs fpr the first one, RN MF DF at Lybster but never found any trace.

Again looked around the second location at Keiss, there does seem to be one South of there.



This one is this at Nos s, I labelled the one at the end of the road a Y Service site but it could be standard comms site. There was also another DF at the site near the HAA that seems to have gone completely now.





There is this RAF DF at Lybster

Lots of Y Service and DF in Caithness - Army, RAF, RN, RSS, CSO!

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26 Jan 2017 22:55 #138 by mbriscoe
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Not been to Killimster but it continued post-war as a CAA site.



Sites everywhere!

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26 Jan 2017 22:59 #139 by mbriscoe
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I am having to go back over nearly every inserted link correcting it because of this new system on the forum.

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20 Jul 2017 10:12 #140 by mbriscoe
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Tean gets a mention in the article in here on the US equivalent of the Y Service..

In 1943 and 1944 many Americans received instruction at RAF schools and on-the-job training in conjunction with intelligence operations at Bletchley Park,RAF Kingsdown, RAF Cheadle, and Cheadle's American sub-station at Tean in Staffordshire.

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