English Electric Canberra

01 May 2015 13:19 #21 by PETERTHEEATER
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The photo shows a Belt Feed Mechanism (BFM) with the lead in section of ammo track. If I remember correctly, it was neccessary to pre-load the BFM with ammo and position a length of ammo belt in the lead-in track. Then attach the BFM to the gun feed and join the short ammo belt to the main belt in the box.

The 20mm Hispano fired from an open breech block so the gun had to be 'cocked' on the ground before takeoff. There was a special 'homemade' tool that had to be inserted in a hole in the gun reciever which would prevent the gun firing if the breech block did run forward. What was that called Superplum? Safety .......?
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01 May 2015 14:49 #22 by ancientarmourer
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The photo shows a Belt Feed Mechanism (BFM) with the lead in section of ammo track. If I remember correctly, it was neccessary to pre-load the BFM with ammo and position a length of ammo belt in the lead-in track. Then attach the BFM to the gun feed and join the short ammo belt to the main belt in the box.

The 20mm Hispano fired from an open breech block so the gun had to be 'cocked' on the ground before takeoff. There was a special 'homemade' tool that had to be inserted in a hole in the gun reciever which would prevent the gun firing if the breech block did run forward. What was that called Superplum? Safety .......?


Peter. How about a stoppage tool? It was inserted in front of the locking shoulder and stopped the locking piece from fully dropping. Also visible are the firing pigtails and the barrel cleaning rods. My pic taken on APC Akrotiri 1960. Sach.

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02 May 2015 10:27 #23 by PETERTHEEATER
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Thanks Sach.

Stoppage Tool.....I seem to remember a different name, perhaps plumbers slang. It was painted red for visibility so that one wouldn't forget to remove it and prevent the gun from firing.... not that we ever did that:wink:

My only installation experience of 20mm was Meteor 8 during the Indonesian Confrontation.

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02 May 2015 12:12 #24 by ancientarmourer
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Thanks Sach.

Stoppage Tool.....I seem to remember a different name, perhaps plumbers slang. It was painted red for visibility so that one wouldn't forget to remove it and prevent the gun from firing.... not that we ever did that:wink:

My only installation experience of 20mm was Meteor 8 during the Indonesian Confrontation.


Did you not do 20mm servicing/installation/loading/firing on the Meteor at Airfields? We all had a go at pulling the trigger.

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02 May 2015 13:16 #25 by superplum
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Thanks Sach.

Stoppage Tool.....I seem to remember a different name, perhaps plumbers slang. It was painted red for visibility so that one wouldn't forget to remove it and prevent the gun from firing.... not that we ever did that:wink:

My only installation experience of 20mm was Meteor 8 during the Indonesian Confrontation.


Stoppage Tool is my recollection too (from Halton only). Round pin on a handle/bar(?) inserted as Peter says.

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02 May 2015 13:33 #26 by PETERTHEEATER
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Did you not do 20mm servicing/installation/loading/firing on the Meteor at Airfields? We all had a go at pulling the trigger.


No, although I can't recall why.

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02 May 2015 21:32 #27 by ancientarmourer
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No, although I can't recall why.


I guess the Hunters had replaced the Meatboxes when you did airfields.

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03 May 2015 10:48 #28 by PETERTHEEATER
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Transition, we did 20mm but not 30mm which I learned on the job.

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03 May 2015 22:12 #29 by BlueShadow
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Not a lot of ground clearance in that picture. How was the gunpack loaded onto the Canberra ? Aircraft jacked up ? Or ramps ?

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04 May 2015 07:00 #30 by superplum
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Did you not do 20mm servicing/installation/loading/firing on the Meteor at Airfields? We all had a go at pulling the trigger.


Slight tangent, but where was the range - I don't recall it ever being mentioned.

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