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14 Jan 2018 08:49 - 14 Jan 2018 08:50 #31
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Peter Kirk's location NGR is a little south of what is the likely site. A 1964 1250 sacle map on Old Maps website shows an anonymous 'Depot' here:
wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None
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Peter Kirk's location NGR is a little south of what is the likely site. A 1964 1250 sacle map on Old Maps website shows an anonymous 'Depot' here:
wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None
Map shows (courtesy of Old Maps website)
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14 Jan 2018 08:58 #32
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Peter Kirk's NGR looks good.
A 1952 10000 scale map shows a suitable site although it is unmarked. A later 1968 2500 scale map shows 'Depot' Looks god to me.
1952 map snip courtesy of Old Maps webiste:
Peter Kirk's NGR looks good.
A 1952 10000 scale map shows a suitable site although it is unmarked. A later 1968 2500 scale map shows 'Depot' Looks god to me.
1952 map snip courtesy of Old Maps webiste:
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14 Jan 2018 09:22 - 14 Jan 2018 09:24 #33
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GAYTON
Mmm....confusing. Gayton Road Station was well to the west of Gayton proper here in Bawsey:
wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None
Old maps don't show anything conclusive and the Norfolk Map Explorer 1945/46 aerial is vague.
You may find this site of use when looking for old railway routes:
www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php
Mmm....confusing. Gayton Road Station was well to the west of Gayton proper here in Bawsey:
wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None
Old maps don't show anything conclusive and the Norfolk Map Explorer 1945/46 aerial is vague.
You may find this site of use when looking for old railway routes:
www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php
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14 Jan 2018 10:20 - 14 Jan 2018 10:22 #34
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However, the phone number given for AMWD Addington was Springpark 5050. Springpark is an area of Croydon (administrative?) which takes in West Wickham to the east of that town. The site that you pinpoint is perilously close to West Wickham and, taking these points into consideration, I think that you're correct.
The 1943 telephone directory lists three AMWD in the London area.
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14 Jan 2018 11:09 #35
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I was actually looking at the square building just up the road to the NE of the area marked depot. Sadly there is a hole in the 1946 aerial coverage in Fakenham so was not able to confirm the depot site.
One advantage of the early 1950s maps is that wartime and post-war additions are usually more crudely marked and rarely shaded in. THe shading used to signify that the building had a roof whereas un-shaded was normally roofless. This seems to have been ignored for the sake of expediency.
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Re Peter Kirk's location. Hidden on the 1945 aerial but shown as DEPOT on a 1958 map 10000 scale on Old Maps website:
I was actually looking at the square building just up the road to the NE of the area marked depot. Sadly there is a hole in the 1946 aerial coverage in Fakenham so was not able to confirm the depot site.
One advantage of the early 1950s maps is that wartime and post-war additions are usually more crudely marked and rarely shaded in. THe shading used to signify that the building had a roof whereas un-shaded was normally roofless. This seems to have been ignored for the sake of expediency.
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14 Jan 2018 15:02 #36
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The square building to which you refer is part of what was an Army Ordnance Depot. I visited the site some years ago.
The postal address given for the AMWD depot was Norwich Street. Actually, the depot was reached by road from Norwich Road, which is a continuation of Norwich Street.
The Section Officer was billeted in Highfield Road.
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Re Peter Kirk's location. Hidden on the 1945 aerial but shown as DEPOT on a 1958 map 10000 scale on Old Maps website:
I was actually looking at the square building just up the road to the NE of the area marked depot. Sadly there is a hole in the 1946 aerial coverage in Fakenham so was not able to confirm the depot site.
One advantage of the early 1950s maps is that wartime and post-war additions are usually more crudely marked and rarely shaded in. THe shading used to signify that the building had a roof whereas un-shaded was normally roofless. This seems to have been ignored for the sake of expediency.
The square building to which you refer is part of what was an Army Ordnance Depot. I visited the site some years ago.
The postal address given for the AMWD depot was Norwich Street. Actually, the depot was reached by road from Norwich Road, which is a continuation of Norwich Street.
The Section Officer was billeted in Highfield Road.
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14 Jan 2018 15:47 #37
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An Army depot would make more sense for my Fakenham suggestion. The Norwich Street address doesn't look promising unless an existing site was adopted. The location on Petertheeater's map post does look a better fit, being marked as a "depot". The site was a timber yard pre-war and housing by 1972. It doesn't seem likely that a timber yard would be labelled as a depot in 1958 so it must have changed use at some point.
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14 Jan 2018 16:11 #38
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Locally, the current thinking is that the depot was at NGR TF 680198. Please see wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm
The Norfolk Map Explorer 1945/46 gives quite a good aerial of the site at this NGR, which is not all far from Gayton Road station.
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GAYTON
Mmm....confusing. Gayton Road Station was well to the west of Gayton proper here in Bawsey:
wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None
Old maps don't show anything conclusive and the Norfolk Map Explorer 1945/46 aerial is vague.
You may find this site of use when looking for old railway routes:
www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php
Locally, the current thinking is that the depot was at NGR TF 680198. Please see wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm
The Norfolk Map Explorer 1945/46 gives quite a good aerial of the site at this NGR, which is not all far from Gayton Road station.
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14 Jan 2018 16:17 #39
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Bang on.
The site is now a small industrial park and flanked both sides of the road. There were a few huts extant about 10 years ago until they were unceremoniously knocked down to make way to park some heavy plant vehicles.
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Peter Kirk's NGR looks good.
A 1952 10000 scale map shows a suitable site although it is unmarked. A later 1968 2500 scale map shows 'Depot' Looks god to me.
1952 map snip courtesy of Old Maps webiste:
Bang on.
The site is now a small industrial park and flanked both sides of the road. There were a few huts extant about 10 years ago until they were unceremoniously knocked down to make way to park some heavy plant vehicles.
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14 Jan 2018 16:17 #40
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My apologies, Richard, I disregarded your original NGR as there was nothing on the 1958 map. However on closer inspection of the larger scale 1972 map there is a remnant of a depot and still marked as "depot" so your original NGR looks to be correct. Shame the Norfolk Explorer has a large gap in coverage for that area!
The depot remains, partially covered by new housing is at TF 92029 30405.
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An Army depot would make more sense for my Fakenham suggestion. The Norwich Street address doesn't look promising unless an existing site was adopted. The location on Petertheeater's map post does look a better fit, being marked as a "depot". The site was a timber yard pre-war and housing by 1972. It doesn't seem likely that a timber yard would be labelled as a depot in 1958 so it must have changed use at some point.
My apologies, Richard, I disregarded your original NGR as there was nothing on the 1958 map. However on closer inspection of the larger scale 1972 map there is a remnant of a depot and still marked as "depot" so your original NGR looks to be correct. Shame the Norfolk Explorer has a large gap in coverage for that area!
The depot remains, partially covered by new housing is at TF 92029 30405.
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