St Athan decoy?

10 Nov 2009 19:34 #1 by motormouse
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Checking the other threads I noticed that St Athan has 2 decoys listed at
Flemingston and Penmark, however the locals say there was only one,
located between the 2 villages at Treguff/Llanbethery Downs

Question, for those of you with better knowledge than I,
is the bunker for that site the one shown in 'Google Earth'
at 51'25"43.95N; 3'23"43.16W ?

ttfn

Pete

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10 Nov 2009 19:54 #2 by Ossington_2008
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According to THE Bible (Fields of Deception)
Saints had 3.
Penmark (location not traced)
Marcross (shared with Llandow, LNT)
Flemingston ST032704

of any help?

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10 Nov 2009 20:11 #3 by carnaby
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Penmark (location not traced)

Penmark village is a few hundred yards from Rhoose! Ideal place for a decoy :roll:.
More probably the decoy became Rhoose which began construction in 1941.

Graham

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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12 Nov 2009 12:01 #4 by ww2nut
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i visited the active satellite landing ground between st Athan and the village of Wick, nothing left apart from one hangar hard standing, but i have seen an aerial shot of tens of aircraft hiding along the tree line and i heard that it was a rather busy place especially when Llandow was receiving aircraft for disposal. unsure about any decoy sites, could you post a photo of the decoy site that you have found? prehaps from google earth?

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12 Nov 2009 15:00 #5 by mawganmad
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The only decoy site I have heard of for St Athan (and for Llandow) is Marcross, which lies South of Llandow.
Certainly never heard of anything at Flemingston and can't even see a suitable area there.

Rhoose (Penmark) was initially established as a SLG for Llandows 53 OTU Spitfires.

WW2nut, I think the site you are reffering to are the SW most dispersals of Llandow, they actually tracked all the way down towards Wick.

James Thomas

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12 Nov 2009 15:49 #6 by motormouse
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This seems to contradict that notion
go to page 4 of the pdf file ----> www.llancarfansociety.org.uk/newsletter/314aa/pdf/nl107.pdf

and www.llancarfansociety.org.uk/newsletter/314aa/pdf/nl106.pdf page 8

You have to remember that its' parishes that are being talked about,
not exact village locations.

Take a look here, see what I found on google earth --->

maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl...26,0.001698&t=h&z=19

ttfn

Pete

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12 Nov 2009 16:13 #7 by mawganmad
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Interesting, so the GE link would be the site referred to in your posted link as Llanbethery?
It looks like it lies between Flemingston and Penmark, hence why there seems to be a Q site listed at both.

I'm sure the 'Penmark' site was the SLG that became Rhoose.

Thanks for this info Pete

James Thomas

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13 Nov 2009 18:23 #8 by ww2nut
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the landing ground i am on about was used by both St. Athan and Llandow and it was in St.Brides here it is in google earth, its about a mile from Llandow and 2 miles from St.Athan, it has a remaining gate house, hard standing and although its a pig farm you can see the lay of the landing areas, 2 in all one ither side of the road, the farmers parents have memories of loads of activity there during the war and it was used as part of the breaking of aircraft towards the end of the war

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13 Nov 2009 19:03 #9 by mawganmad
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Ah sorry Dean, I see what you mean.
That is the SLG of St Brides and yes aircraft could be dispersed and hidden there. I've never heard of scrapping there though, would love to hear more about that.

James Thomas

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16 Nov 2009 18:27 #10 by ww2nut
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i went to the airfield about a year ago and while roaming around the perimeter i was confronted by the farmer who was more than helpful, i already knew about the sites history but he said that his parents had told him about aircraft lined up being disassembled and lorry's coming to cart away the resulting debris? its my opinion that his parents (owning a huge swathe of land in that area) had confused the landing ground with some local dispersals, also on their land nearby and linked directly to Llandow. i could be wrong, but he was sure they were talking about the landing ground closest to the farm house, i have seen an arial photo of aircraft lining the trees but never more than a handfull were ment to have used the field. i cant find any real history for the site which in its day was said to have a robin hanagar, various nissen huts and a big guard house considering the insignificance of the site?
(ps not forgot about the literature i promised but xmas and shopping getting in the way of everything at the mo!)

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