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17 Sep 2018 10:45 #1
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another mountain biking discovery!! on the hills above Fowlis Wester at grid ref: 56 24 250N, 3 44 836W I came across a ww2 building and a pre-cast hut,
Canmore lists them as observation buildings! no mottled landscape of a bombing range or anything like that, anyone have any ideas?
Canmore lists them as observation buildings! no mottled landscape of a bombing range or anything like that, anyone have any ideas?
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17 Sep 2018 12:25 #2
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17 Sep 2018 14:24 #3
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It can't be min / sec with that '836'
The Canmore ref would help.
Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite
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Having trouble with that grid ref - is it decimal? If so my converter pus it at NO 1025 0649 which is 15 miles away to the southeast....at grid ref: 56 24 250N, 3 44 836W
Canmore lists them...
It can't be min / sec with that '836'
The Canmore ref would help.
Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite
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17 Sep 2018 17:17 #4
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CANMORE
I think there is sometimes a tendency to "If in doubt, call it an observation post" but it would not give much protection from anything apart from the weather.
There is another building South East of it.
It has sockets around the wall - would they bother with a generator at an observation post? I wondered about some sort of comms or navaid site. Did you check for any signs of antenna bases, masts, towers etc? I can't see any sign of outlets for antenna cables though. A lot of munitions were kept in open storage at Aberfoyle, could this area have also been used for storage?
I think there is sometimes a tendency to "If in doubt, call it an observation post" but it would not give much protection from anything apart from the weather.
There is another building South East of it.
It has sockets around the wall - would they bother with a generator at an observation post? I wondered about some sort of comms or navaid site. Did you check for any signs of antenna bases, masts, towers etc? I can't see any sign of outlets for antenna cables though. A lot of munitions were kept in open storage at Aberfoyle, could this area have also been used for storage?
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17 Sep 2018 17:45 #5
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Using the search on the forum for Fowlis Wester throws up a list of postwar Fighter Command VHF Fixer Stations including Fowlis Wester. Posted by Carnaby on 10 July 2014. Same place?
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17 Sep 2018 18:32 #6
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That sound very likely.
You seem to often find there is a building near the actual "fixer" for the crew, presumably to brew up etc and perhaps power the main site or charge batteries? See if there is an octagonal (or is it hexagonal?. I can never remember!) concrete base nearby.
Like this
canmore.org.uk/site/314258/lybster
Or the base of this
www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/sets/72157628704884757/
You seem to often find there is a building near the actual "fixer" for the crew, presumably to brew up etc and perhaps power the main site or charge batteries? See if there is an octagonal (or is it hexagonal?. I can never remember!) concrete base nearby.
Like this
canmore.org.uk/site/314258/lybster
Or the base of this
www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/sets/72157628704884757/
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19 Sep 2018 15:44 - 19 Sep 2018 15:47 #7
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Site Name Fowlis Wester, Military Buildings
Classification Building (20th Century), Observation Post (20th Century)
Canmore ID 101056
Site Number NN92SW 110
NGR NN 92333 24941
NGR Description NN 92333 24941 and NN 92459 24822
Datum OSGB36 - NGR
Permalink canmore.org.uk/site/101056
about 2 miles further west up the road is a modern mobile mast, perhaps the VHF bit is up there, and these were just guard room type buildings?
No sign of anything octagonal, or any other foundations whatsoever, though the picture in the Lybster file on Canmore shows exactly the same building.
Next time Im up that way will pedal up to the top and see whats at the mobile mast
Classification Building (20th Century), Observation Post (20th Century)
Canmore ID 101056
Site Number NN92SW 110
NGR NN 92333 24941
NGR Description NN 92333 24941 and NN 92459 24822
Datum OSGB36 - NGR
Permalink canmore.org.uk/site/101056
about 2 miles further west up the road is a modern mobile mast, perhaps the VHF bit is up there, and these were just guard room type buildings?
No sign of anything octagonal, or any other foundations whatsoever, though the picture in the Lybster file on Canmore shows exactly the same building.
Next time Im up that way will pedal up to the top and see whats at the mobile mast
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19 Sep 2018 17:57 #8
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The
www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/albums/72157667082762934shape of the base
of the wooden tower type is very distinctive so can be recognised even when little trace left. If the brick wall survives then it is sometimes incorrectly identified as a pillbox.
The other type is all plywood and chippings so I think the one I photographed is the only survivor.
The other type is all plywood and chippings so I think the one I photographed is the only survivor.
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