GREAT OFFLEY - Memorial refused

21 Jun 2014 09:16 - 08 May 2017 21:11 #1 by pimpernel
GREAT OFFLEY - Memorial refused was created by pimpernel
I started a thread on the Aviation Forum pages regarding a memorial that the local parish council won't approve.

Please read what has already been said.

forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?1...posted=1#post2146706

I am trying to contact Peter to point him in the direction of both forums but have heard nothing yet.

Your views would be appreciated.

Brian.

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21 Jun 2014 10:25 - 08 May 2017 21:11 #2 by airfields man
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No-doubt, you can guess my responce to this..? I'm all for any memorial to those who lost their lives from any of the Services. So you have my support.
Regards the other crash that you mention between two 390th BG B17s (Mission 179) near the Hertfordshire village of Weston I have that story which I bought about 10 years or so ago. As far as I know there is still no memorial to that tradegy that also included two civilians.

Incidently I am just about to go to a B17 crash-site mini dig, Nine crew killed, no memorial yet...

The Dead got memorials, The living got time.

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21 Jun 2014 16:21 - 08 May 2017 21:12 #3 by REF
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Thanks Brian, I hope you don't mind me quoting your original post;

I am not sure if any other forum members living near Gt Offley, not far from Luton Airport have read about this but I cannot help thinking it is a pretty poor excuse for not having a memorial.

www.thecomet.net/news/council_rejects_ca...sh_victims_1_3648841

If there is a dedicated memorial for all those lost in this crash which includes local people then how can it offend? " the parish council did not want to offend any other areas of the parish where we do not have details of other events".

There is just a few miles away from this site another well documented crash- On 26th August 1944, two Flying Fortress Aircraft belonging to the 390th Bombardment Group (H) of the U.S. Army Airforce based at PARHAM Airfield near Framlingham in Suffolk.The 2 Aircraft collided and crashed at the hamlet of Friends Green near the village of WESTON north Hertfordshire. Again there were villagers killed in this accident.

There is no memorial as far as I know for this crash either but the sad loss of life is the reason to remember those lost to war.

This is not intended to start a debate of should we have a memorial for every plane crash site but to show how hard it can be to try and do something like this.


If it is on private land and privately funded then surely you do not need planning permission?

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21 Jun 2014 17:32 - 08 May 2017 21:12 #4 by Denis
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Yes you do Richard, Both of our memorials are situated thus, but we paid £120 per memorial for planning permission to the local Parish Councils.

Incidently I am just about to go to a B17 crash-site mini dig, Nine crew killed, no memorial yet...


Penn?

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21 Jun 2014 21:35 - 08 May 2017 21:13 #5 by REF
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Yes you do Richard, Both of our memorials are situated thus, but we paid £120 per memorial for planning permission to the local Parish Councils.


OK, thanks Denis, wasn't 100% sure.

I am amazed that it'd get turned down though

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21 Jun 2014 23:42 - 08 May 2017 21:13 #6 by Denis
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It is rather unlikely that a Parish council would turn it down. As long as accurate drawings & plans are submitted and the landowner consents, everything should be Ok.
Planning permission is really a formality, keep everyone happy and you should succeed. We nearly had to change the colour of the bricks we were going use on the Sawbridgeworth memorial, but the person inspecting it relented. There was also a height restriction on the first phase of the Hunsdon site, even memorials off the beaten track can cause the odd problem!

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22 Jun 2014 08:05 - 08 May 2017 21:14 #7 by pimpernel
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As we are only working on what the paper has interpreted, knowing how they work they could be economical with the truth. Where exactly was the memorial to be placed, was the council expected to pay for the lot, how big etc.

I am still trying to get the attention of Paul Strickland to get his side of the story via social media but so far he is not picking up.

Thank you to those contributing.

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