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09 Nov 2008 10:08 #1 by olympusman
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What lucky you are to have that much surviving site/buildings and you aviation archeology still rich

I understand that it is difficult today to maintain 1 site completely in his WWII shape
Is it really impossible or is there no official support for this ?
The RAF has his BBMF to maintain the memory of WWII crew
Why don't they do the same for an airfield and the memory of ground staff...?
Or can Duxford be considered as such ?

In Belgium, the Government sold many bunkers for private use at a cheap price (average less than £650) and they all gone (I missed one for £500... my bid was a bit too low !)
Many became little museums

Why don't you buy little buildings (OPS room, shelters, ammo storage, ... thinking about your archive project !) at a reasonable price, you may have at least 1 type of building surviving of all ones built during WWII.
You may consider that many types of (big) hangars will survive in military hands or private estate projects
I know, I am dreaming... !

But a book that describes airfields with scale plans & pictures with all WWII building types is still a reasonable project... but who will start ?
I am sure there are treasures in your archives... you are known for that !

In Belgium, if an airfield is definitely closed, bulldozers and scrapers are taken in action quickly... 2 airfields are concerned presently and I trying (with the support of another 'infrastucture freak') to save as much as possible thru pictures of present status, private collections, plans (a ground plan of each building, overall plans, detail plans of airfield lighting & arrester systems, etc...) thru the years, interviews of ground staff for at least 2 book projects to remember those places for future generations !
Can't do more as we don't have a local AiX, ARG, ... and won't have the same synergy/motivation as in the UK !
The majority of aviation enthusiasts are focussing on pilots and aircraft... ground infrastructure and staff are mainly forgotten, isn't it ?

Yes guys, what lucky you are on the WWII airfield archeolgy side ! ! !
Unfortunately, I live on the wrong side of the Channel...

Nice Sunday to all of you

6 RCAF Bomber Group (organisation, airfields, squadrons, aircarft, and their 70 crashes in Belgium (location, crew, evasion lines, cemeteries, PoW Camps, etc...). Busy for a couple of years !!!!!!

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09 Nov 2008 14:23 #2 by Peter Kirk
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A lot of the WW2 airfields in northern Eurpoe would have been subject to demolition many times courtesy of the Royal Air Force, the Eight Air Force and the Ninth Air Force. Not being an expert in European airfields, I would guess in most cases any remains would be post war NATO. Possibly this might have something to do with potential preservation?
I wonder if there are any WW2 airfields in Belgium that closed afer the war that still have traces similar to those in East Anglia and other areas of the UK?

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09 Nov 2008 14:24 #3 by Paul Francis
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Olympusman as 'our man' in Belgium, your mission has been and continues to be to record those buildings on your airfields so that we in the UK and enjoy them. We (AiX) would really like a photographic collection of airfields in Europe. I have made a start of a few in Germany but we have nothing of Belgium. Therefore, would you start this collection off please?

You can tell a builder from an archaeologist by the size of his trowel. Mine is a small one!

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09 Nov 2008 14:50 #4 by Peter Kirk
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Has anyone a list of WW2 airfields in northern Europe with coordinates or a KML file? It will give something to look at over the Xmas holiday.

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09 Nov 2008 17:48 #5 by olympusman
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Denis, I like your cynical view on the subject... !

Paul, I will start once... !

PNK, are you crossing the Channel around Xmas... ?

6 RCAF Bomber Group (organisation, airfields, squadrons, aircarft, and their 70 crashes in Belgium (location, crew, evasion lines, cemeteries, PoW Camps, etc...). Busy for a couple of years !!!!!!

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09 Nov 2008 18:44 #6 by Peter Kirk
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PNK, are you crossing the Channel around Xmas... ?


Only via Google Earth :lol:

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09 Nov 2008 19:04 #7 by Richard Drew
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www.atlantikwall.co.uk/atlantikwall/atla...south_of_england.htm

Culmhead would make a fatastic museum BUT!!!!!!

Land prices, farmers, windfarmers, ecoers, etc. I did ask Yeovilton museum curator about adopting Culmhead, the answer was the usual tat from museum people. Long Newnton is another maybe?

www.atlantikwall.co.uk/atlantikwall/awal...on01/html/page01.htm

yet Old Sarum may lose another hangar soon, so much for being listed and look at the trouble Yatesbury has had.

www.atlantikwall.co.uk/atlantikwall/engl...ry01/html/page01.htm

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09 Nov 2008 22:17 #8 by Peter Kirk
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Listed means its leaning to one side and ready to fall over :)

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