Bomb Disposal of Surplus Bombs by Bombers 1945

09 Jun 2020 12:31 - 09 Jun 2020 12:32 #1 by netcompsys
I was reviewing a log book for a Flight Engineer who served on 640 Squadron (at Leconfield) and subsequently 158 Sqn (at Lissett ) after VE Day and there were a number of entries for

Bomb Disposal - North Sea flight time in the order of an hour



Interestingly the single entry for a trip from Leconfield

Was before Operations had ended

Was there a designated area of the North Sea for such disposal?
Presumably they were not fused?

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09 Jun 2020 13:12 #2 by PETERTHEEATER
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Was the author an American or Canadian? The script has that odd mix of upper and lower case letters.

Yes, there was a dedicated area in the North Sea for 'munitions disposal' but using aircraft would, I think, have been reserved for the disposal of special bombs. And why not fuze them? They would be reduced to fragments without any danger to people or property rather than laying on the seabed for decades.

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09 Jun 2020 15:35 #3 by Peter Kirk
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It had a code-name(s), the name of which which escapes me, and that was often used to describe the missions so it won't always be obvious they were dumping. One source even gave lat and long locations for each drop as well. I didn't record it though. I think incendiaries may have been dumped in separate missions and this may have been the reason why there was more than one code-name.

Wasn't Cardigan Bay and Beaufort Dyke also used?

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09 Jun 2020 16:05 - 20 Jun 2020 14:30 #4 by netcompsys
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The Logbook was from a Flight Engineer on a Halifax, so pretty certain he was British

Presumably by special you mean chemical, but would not expect these to have been in the bomb dumps of Bomber Command airfields in 1945

Wasn't Cardigan Bay and Beaufort Dyke also used?


I was aware of the dumping of bombs in Cardigan Bay and Beaufort Dyke but I was under the impression that these were dumped off the front of Landing Craft

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04 Sep 2020 09:54 #5 by canberra
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Im interested in the fact that some of the operational sorties are in green (which is correct even today for operational sorties) and that some are in red. AFAIK red is only supposed to be used in a log book for the monthly summary and for any mistakes made that lead to an endorsement.

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04 Sep 2020 11:14 - 04 Sep 2020 11:18 #6 by Peter Kirk
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Wasn't red originally for night missions? Black or blue seemed to have been used for non-operational trips and training.

Some Admiralty charts have "Explosives Dumping Ground" marked with some marked as disused. I have never really investigated these but the NLS collection of Admiralty charts for Scottish waters might shown those in that area.

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04 Sep 2020 12:14 - 04 Sep 2020 12:15 #7 by netcompsys
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Im interested in the fact that some of the operational sorties are in green (which is correct even today for operational sorties) and that some are in red. AFAIK red is only supposed to be used in a log book for the monthly summary and for any mistakes made that lead to an endorsement.


I dont know what period of years you are referring to but I have access to a fair number of bomber crew logbooks for the period 1944/45 and Red is used for Night Operations and underlined

Apart from the example above all the others use Blue/Black for day operations and also underlined

Some also include a count of the number of Ops

No operational sorties are in blue/black and not underlined

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07 Sep 2020 09:51 #8 by canberra
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As I said earlier AFAIK green is for operational missions (day and night), and certainly talking to aircrew whove flown operational sorties(Falklands, Northern Ireland and Gulf) that is what Im lead to believe is the case. Personally I cant see the need to use a different colour for day and night operational missions.

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07 Sep 2020 11:37 #9 by Peter Kirk
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I wonder if there was some sort of regulation that determined the colours used and if so was it changed at some point? Possibly in more recent decades that fact that it was day or night was less relevant and only that it was operational?

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10 Oct 2020 09:53 #10 by canberra
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A few weeks ago I saw a programme on the Battle of Britain and they had a pilots log book from the battle, and all his operational sorties were in blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im now totally and utterly confused.

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