RAF Beaulieu Gymnasuim question.

24 Mar 2021 10:38 - 24 Mar 2021 10:44 #1 by Gypsymoth
RAF Beaulieu Gymnasuim question. was created by Gypsymoth
The RSP has 138 Gymnasium, TB, 14604/40 & 16428/40.
I can see what the 16428/40 looks like in a Paul Francis book. What does this mean 14604/40 ?

I'm helping a chap who's making some wonderful videos of his rambles round the airfield that he puts on youtube. I told him these gym buildings were dual use gym/cinema & he's asked what the 14604/40 stands for ? I don't know so I ask for help here.

Thanks.

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24 Mar 2021 12:09 - 24 Mar 2021 12:13 #2 by Peter Kirk
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Drawing number stroke year. I assume drawing numbers are sequential within the year but when there are two I have also assumed they were original plus late additions or two drawing numbers joined together like an annex. Hopefully someone has a definitive answer.

I am also not sure how strict a drawing is. Certainly on range quadrant towers the same drawing number applied to ones at ground level to ones raised up on legs and slight variations to the layout, however without the original drawing it is difficult to know if all variations were pre drawn.

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25 Mar 2021 12:18 #3 by Gypsymoth
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Umm there are just these 2 rows of numbers

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25 Mar 2021 13:28 #4 by PETERTHEEATER
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Is the Gym extant? Is it/was it located on one of the dispersed sites?

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26 Mar 2021 11:42 - 26 Mar 2021 11:47 #5 by P Bellamy
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14604/40 is the original AM Type Drawing for the wartime Gymnasium design, which was only seven bays long.
16428/40 was a revised drawing, which added a further two bays to the length of the building.

From the outline of the Beaulieu RSP above, it also appears to have had the Church Extension (AM Dwg. 15424/41) and the Projection Room Extension (AM Dwg 8891/42 or similar) added. The aerial photo coverage of its former location provides confirmation.


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26 Mar 2021 12:22 #6 by Gypsymoth
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It was on Communal Site 1, No.138.
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26 Mar 2021 12:34 #7 by Gypsymoth
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Goodness Peter - what brilliant info. Now I understand what the 2 numbers involves.

I'll reply again later when I've shared your info with the video maker.
Your airfoto is incredible !!

Terry.

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26 Mar 2021 12:46 - 26 Mar 2021 13:38 #8 by netcompsys
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There is a topic in the ARG Members' area of the forum dedicated to this type of building:

www.airfieldresearchgroup.org.uk/forum/a...04-40-onwards#102041

As well as complete area of the forum for airfield buildings, covering 216 separate topics:

www.airfieldresearchgroup.org.uk/forum/a...ldings-installations

And a 13 page discussion on RAF Beaulieu.......

www.airfieldresearchgroup.org.uk/forum/h...585-beaulieu?start=0

Join and enjoy !

kevin
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26 Mar 2021 18:05 - 26 Mar 2021 18:14 #9 by Gypsymoth
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The chap making videos of Beaulieu (Marc Heighway) has some notes & sketches by Alan Brown who went there in 1946 as a parachute instructor for the AFEE. In 1946 the airfield reduced personnel from 2,000 to 500, so reallocation of buildings & functions must have taken place.

What has thrown us is this sketch from one of the books Alan published in the 1990's is because it doesn't match the RSP outline of 138 Gymnasium seen in the sketch. Now we can see that there's some artistic license at play here which makes the conundrum clear.

Your satellite view Peter is very revealing & solves any dilema we had, so thank you very much. We're both very grateful.
I'll tell Marc of your links, kevin - he's joined recently.





Terry Wallis.

Kevin - thanks for the links but they don't work.....I'm sure Marc will find his way around though !!

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26 Mar 2021 18:14 - 26 Mar 2021 18:17 #10 by NewForest
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Hi Gents,

I already know Peter K (hope you well sir).

Thanks Terry, and thanks for all chiming in on this. I've been really stacked recently so Terry has been helping me out - he likes a mystery too.

I will be making a decent stab at documenting the cinema on a blog I run on RAF Beaulieu. It's a labour of love, but am trying to document every building on the site, and also weave in personal stories where I can.

If you are interested, I posted some memories of a lady who worked for ENSA in this cinema - there are some internal photos of what the cinema looked like on the blog post - her memories of her time working the cinema are fascinating - if you have the inclination too, you can read it here:

rafbeaulieu.co.uk/memories-cinema-operator-ww2-airfield/

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